I remember Pam posting pics of some kittens she had so I contacted her and she said come on down. We'll I was leaving with ine when I saw this little face under her shelves looking up. Pam say you'll never caught that one. I said is that a challenge and of course she said yup go for it. So I laid on the floor and slowly convinced the poor baby it was OK. Caught her and Pam says you caught them you take them lol no returns. We would compare pics as the girls grew up. She told Walter she was glad they were with family. Her heart was so big for animals and her kids and grandkids.